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CIN SD pricing Procedure

former_member185462 — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 07:37:04 GMT

Hi,

I am new to CIN,i was looking through various material in Google,i request to clarify following queries

1)In TAXINN pricing procedure there are various condition types,my doubt should the SD Pricing procedure for Sales from factory,depot etc should have similar (same) condition types as in TAXINN

2)If same condition type is not required ,kindly let me know what is the linking factor between those.

3)Should all tax condition types Excise Duty,CESS,Secondary Cess and CST/VAT should have condition category as D-Tax

4)I have doubt regarding VK11 & FV11 which condition record should be used.Which have preference over each other.Upon what situation we should prefer FV11 over VK11

5)What is the use of MAINTAIN EXCISE GROUP ,on what occasion it is used

As most the questions might have circulated over web,but this query would benefit beginners,if we get answers for these.

Pradeep M

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

Former Member — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:16:28 GMT

Hi,

Find answers in line

1)In TAXINN pricing procedure there are various condition types,my doubt should the SD Pricing procedure for Sales from factory,depot etc should have similar (same) condition types as in TAXINN

No, pricing and tax procedures and conditions are different. Also facotry and depot have altogather different scenarios.

2)If same condition type is not required ,kindly let me know what is the linking factor between those.

Linking factor is usage of conditions in Tax codes, masters

3)Should all tax condition types Excise Duty,CESS,Secondary Cess and CST/VAT should have condition category as D-Tax

All possible combinations, yes

4)I have doubt regarding VK11 & FV11 which condition record should be used.Which have preference over each other.Upon what situation we should prefer FV11 over VK11

VK11

FV 11 is for procurement, Vk11 is for sales side transaciton to maintain condition records

5)What is the use of MAINTAIN EXCISE GROUP ,on what occasion it is used

Its part of config, if its not maintain excise flow will be incolplete.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

former_member185462 — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:28:06 GMT

2)If same condition type is not required ,kindly let me know what is the linking factor between those.

Linking factor is usage of conditions in Tax codes, masters

In Tax code,a/c key is the linkage?

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

prasanna_kumar4 — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:39:40 GMT

Hi,

From SD Point view ,we use only 2 Types ( Percentage base or Qty Base).

As per my knowledge most of the cases we use Percentage base and same conditions types will use all pricing procedure.

Same will be assigned to our tax Procedure under CIN Settings.(Maintain Excise Defaults).

So at the time of executing the Transaction J1IIN , by-default system will pick Excise Duties based on above assignment.

FV11 is used MM and FI Modules.

VK11 is purely SD module.( for Tax condition types we use Tax codes which is created in FV11).

Excise Group : it is purely internal purpose and also to update or control certain transactions in SAP.

Based on Excise Group only we can maintain Number Ranges example ( Depot Process )

Based on Excise group only we can do utilization Transaction.

Based on Excise Group only we can update and Extract the Excise Registers.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

Former Member — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:01:46 GMT

Conditions are generic. IF some of them are not required, either leave them as it is as they are SAP STD but dont maintain/use them in records maintenance. Acct key is linked to condition in prising, to this acct key, further, GL is assigned.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

Former Member — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:20:39 GMT

Hi,

In case of TAXINN, you dont have any link between your Tax procedure and your SD pricing procedure.

For TAXINN, as part of sales is concerned, you have different SD condition types which you create using V/06 transaction. There is no Formula or J1ID transaction will be used in the TAXINN Concept.

The Excise conditions are directly created as SD conditions so the account assignment for different account key in SD Pricing Procedure will be carried out in SD using VKOA transaction

For Sales tax conditions, since the conditions are created as tax conditions (Cond.Class & Cond.Catg - D taxes) the account key will be taken from the SD Pricing procedure which has been assigned in OB40.

Condition records will be maintained in VK11 only.

Hope its clear now.

Thanks n Regards,

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

former_member185462 — Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:25:59 GMT


In case of TAXINN, you dont have any link between your Tax procedure and your SD pricing procedure.
For TAXINN, as part of sales is concerned, you have different SD condition types which you create using V/06 transaction. There is no Formula or J1ID transaction will be used in the TAXINN Concept.

So for TAXINN concept we need not maintain any thing related to J1ID settings?

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

former_member185462 — Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:16:50 GMT

From SD Point view ,we use only 2 Types ( Percentage base or Qty Base).
As per my knowledge most of the cases we use Percentage base and same conditions types will use all pricing procedure.
Same will be assigned to our tax Procedure under CIN Settings.(Maintain Excise Defaults).

Here in Maintain Excise Defaults do we enter whatever condition types used in Tax Pricing procedure(OBQ3) or SD Pricing procedure.

TAXINN with Tax condition types or TAXINN with Condition types(BED,CESS,HCESS) in SD Pricing Procedure

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

prasanna_kumar4 — Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:11:39 GMT

TAXINN with Tax condition types or TAXINN with Condition types(BED,CESS,HCESS) in SD Pricing Procedure

SD pricing Procedure condition types need to assign.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

Former Member — Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:48:02 GMT

Hi,

Yes. no need of J1ID settings for SD incase of TAXINN.

In Std SD Pricing Procedure, you can see SD excise condition such as JEXP for which condition records will be maintained in VK11.

Hope you are clear now.

Thanks n Regards,

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

former_member185462 — Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:23:05 GMT

Excise Group : it is purely internal purpose and also to update or control certain transactions in SAP.
 Based on Excise Group only we can maintain Number Ranges example ( Depot Process )
 Based on Excise group only we can do utilization Transaction.
 Based on Excise Group only we can update and Extract the Excise Registers.

On what kind of scenario we maintain more than one excise group per plant, or only one excise group per plant

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

prasanna_kumar4 — Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:39:53 GMT

Hi,

On what kind of scenario we maintain more than one excise group per plant, or only one excise group per plant

As per my knowledge if any plant is divide with Wall and River or etc... then we need to create 2 excise groups for single plant.

In SAP, we can assign Single plant with multiple Excise Groups.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

srinu_s1 — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 03:36:36 GMT

Hi,

Excise group:It is an Internal grouping which we do for each and every plant for the purpose of Excise GL accounts

and number ranges.

Any excise transactions you do it should be routed through a particular excise group, each plant will have separate excise group.

In Condition based There is no link between tax procedure TAXINN and your sales pricing procedure unlike Formula based where there is link between your sales procedure and Tax procedure TAXINJ here UTXJ will act as link between these two.

Tax procedure is used to to calculate Tax condition types

VK11 is used by SD and FV11 is for MM.

Thanks,

Srinu.

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure

Lakshmipathi — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:35:19 GMT

Not sure what exactly you have searched but however, below are my responses in seriatim to your queries.

SD Pricing Procedure would fetch the values when you generate a billing document. TAXINN procedure would consider when you generate an excise invoice
Link betweeen SD and Excise is in IMG > Logistics-General where, you would be assigning SD Billing Types to Delivery types.
Yes and you can check in OBQ1 for condition types starting with "J"
VK11 for pricing condition records and FV11 for tax purpose

G. Lakshmipathi