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excise JV entry

Former Member — Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:45:27 GMT

Dear Expert,

I am clear about the excise procedure..I searched on Internet and i come to following conclusion...

I have captured and posted part1 and part2(TO update RG23A/c register) excise in MIGO screen. I am able to display it in J1IEX. Now I want to post to Excise JV in Tcode J1IH and selecting TR6 Challan and Utilize it in J2IUN.

As i know if i have done excise posting in MIGO which i can see in Table J_1IPART1/2. Now I needn't to do updation in J1I5 and Extraction in J2I5. Now when I am going to Tcode J1IH and clicking on TR6 challan tab for EXcise JV entry It is displaying

Doc number - required field Doc no which it has generated in Part2

Doc year - Optional Fiscal Yr

Company code- req Cocd -1000

Plant -- Req plant- 1000

excise group - Req exgrp- EG

SubT type optional

After giving values it is taking me to new window where it is displaying (based on CIN configuration i think so).

PLA HOLD credit

PLA AED Dr

PLA BED Dr

PLA SED Dr

PLA cess Dr

But it is not picking amount automaically. Do I need to give amount manually. If yes How can I know what value should I give?

And how to run Utilization in J2IUN?

Which step should come first then next ..during complete procedure from capturing, posting, Excise JV entry, Updation of register, extraction, Utilization To paying tax to government.

Please Suggest me What step do I need to follow and correct me if I am wrong at any point.

Thanks in advance.

regards

Mani

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:42:19 GMT

Ref the doc for Cenvat Utilization.

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-46185

ref the below for CIN understading

http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/bpxproj/CIN+User+manuval+for+MM

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:52:00 GMT

Hi,

Firstly pls check why is the need to do a excise JV via J1IH ??

J1IH > TR6C will post to PLA directly. It will bring only the PLA accounts maintained

in tables J_1ITRNACC and J_1IEXCACC..

The system will NOT bring in any amounts automatically, you MUST enter the same manually

as per your business requirements..

Pls note that J1IH in CIN like doing and direct FI JV. J1IH will directly hit the register balances..

Regards,

Rajasree R

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:44:56 GMT

I will give you just an heads up on the Excise process.

Procurement Process

PO with tax code and values in it
GR
J1iex(capture and post excise )

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is GRPO and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

Accounting entry is

BED DR

Ecs DR

Sccess DR

Cenvat Credit

same Way for sales

SO with Tax values in SDPP - determined by UTXJ

Delivery
J1IIN

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is DLFC and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

Accounting entry is

BED CR

Ecs CR

Sccess CR

Cenvat DR

Now we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit availed .

detailed process is available in the earlier link and also available in the forum.

This note is only a brief on the entire process. Let us know if any help.

fyi- J1IH is for a manual entry - simply to correct an excise posting manually.

regards

Manu

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:56:05 GMT

Thanks for your kind suggestion.

After going through the document referred by you and reading some more i come to following conclusion

which is as.

1st scenario

I can capture excise and post in MIGO. (for MM) also in J1IEX but require updation of registers RG23A/C

same I can do in J1IIN(for SD).

and 2nd scenario

In fb50

pla on hold acct debit/40

pla interim acct clearing credit/50

In Fb60/f-43 Invoice to tax authority

Tax authority (as a vendor) credit/31

pla interim acct clearing debit /40

Payment to tax authority (f-54)

Tax authority (as a vendor) debit/25

Cash/bank act credit/50

Tr6 challan posting to update PLA register

Pla on hold acct credit/50

BED Debit

AED Debit

SED Debit

ECess Debit

SCess Debit

Then Utilization J2IUN

Please suggest me step that i should follow, and How can i link between Scenario 1st and 2nd.

Please guide me.

Thanks in advance

Mani

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:16:13 GMT

Thanks for your kind suggestion.

After going through the document referred by you and reading some more i come to following conclusion

which is as.

1st scenario

I can capture excise and post in MIGO. (for MM) also in J1IEX but require updation of registers RG23A/C

As you have suggested it is triggering

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is GRPO and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

Accounting entry is

BED DREcs DRSccess DRCenvat Credit same I can do in J1IIN(for SD).

Accounting entry is

BED CR

Ecs CR

Sccess CR

Cenvat DR

How we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit availed ?

If J1ih is for manual posting, so what is the way to auto matic posting?

and 2nd scenario

In fb50

pla on hold acct debit/40

pla interim acct clearing credit/50

In Fb60/f-43 Invoice to tax authority

Tax authority (as a vendor) credit/31

pla interim acct clearing debit /40

Payment to tax authority (f-54)

Tax authority (as a vendor) debit/25

Cash/bank act credit/50

Tr6 challan posting to update PLA register

Pla on hold acct credit/50

BED Debit

AED Debit

SED Debit

ECess Debit

SCess Debit

Then Utilization J2IUN

Please suggest me step that i should follow, and How can i link between Scenario 1st and 2nd.

Please guide me.

Thanks in advance

Mani

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:40:15 GMT

Thanks for replying.

I just want to know how can I interlink Excise posted in J1IEX and J1IIN before paying excise duty on goods produce and going to sale. and how does/will it update automatically to PLA register.

How can i know what excise duty liable to pay at end of month?

How much rebate will i get for tax paid on Raw material/Capital goods I have used in manufacturing of finished goods which I am going to sale and for that I am liable to pay Tax to tax authority ?

Please suggest me, I am unable to integrate the scenario.

thanks in advance.

Mani

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:46:23 GMT

Scenario 1 is Logistics part with CIN

Scenario 2 is FI part for payment to tax authority.

I can help you on Scenario 1 .

To Your Question :How we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit availed ?

Its done through T code J2IUN

I/p GL account Cr and Output GL account Dr

process :Already shared in the link .

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-46185

regards

Manu

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:51:15 GMT

Thanks for valuable suggestion.

I have done J1lIEX capturing and posting in MIGO

then J1IIN

and Now trying to do utilization, In the document you have suggested in that doc RG23ABED available

balance is not zero but when i am trying it is displaying zero available balance.Please check the screen shot .

Kindly suggest me which step is missing.

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:47:44 GMT

How you did J1IIN and Part 1@ RG1 Update ?

please elaborate .

just fyi- You need to do J1i5 and extract the registers as pre req.

use T code J1ILN for all CIN front end t code.

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:59:27 GMT

When I am going to tcode vf03 to display billing doc>> Accounting entry

It is displaying 2 accounting entry document.

Please look at the screen shot.

This is hitting to G/l as we have done config for UTJX. So I think I have done J1IIN at the time creating billing document itself.

Please correct me if i am wrong, and tell me next step.

Thanks in advance.

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:58:54 GMT

Please do J1I5 or J2I5, then check J2IUN entries

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:21:19 GMT

Hi Mani ,

is it working . Else not .

please close this ticket and post anew one with specific on Utilization only.

Till then its fine seems .

regards

Manu

Re: excise JV entry

Former Member — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:18:19 GMT

Dear Expert,

As you said I tried to update registers using tcode J1I5.

and used classification ROP. It's take me to new screen where I selected 1 entry and then i clicked on Register Entry button and that item get disappeared.

I don't know anything about classification. Can You please explain me in detail about all 'classification' and their link with RG23a/C and RG1 part1 registers.

2) I think This is not the problem, But the main problem is I am not giving suitable G/L account

in J2IUN

in following fields:

Service tax credit account

ECESS on ser tax account

SECess on ser tax account

Service tax payable account

ECS on ser payable account

SECess on ser payable account

Please correct me if I am wrong and please tell me which acct should i put here ?

If you need I can send You list of g/l account or I am attaching Screen shot which are hitting

At the time of excise posting in MIGO and In tcode VF01 - sales doc billing.

Re: excise JV entry

former_member182489 — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:50:43 GMT

Please post this as a new Question . The subject and your first and last question may be misleading to viewers .

plz specify with Screen shot of J21UN - what pre req need to do .ok

close this before u open a new.