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Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:30:03 GMT

Since SAP still has not opened any Idea-Place-like site for the improvement suggestions, this place seems as good as any to start a wish list / rant combination.

And I'm not even talking about big stuff like why there is no version control for the forms or why there is no billing status for the orders in the delivery-related billing scenario or anything like that. It's the "small potatoes" that I bet would take SAP all but 5 lines of code and some goodwill to make work.

For example, in SE80 I right-click on the report and pick Create -> Transaction from the menu. Even though clearly I'm creating a transaction for a report (did I mention I right-clicked on it?), it's still proposing 'program and screen' transaction type. Oh-kay... But even after I chose the right transaction type why on earth can't SAP fill in the report name here?

Hmm, which program could this transaction be for... How about the one that I've just right-clicked on?! Ugh...

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

JL23 — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:36:42 GMT

I wish they would fix all the links in their KBAs which are pointing to OSS notes on css.wdf.sap.corp... which cannot be opened by the normal folks.

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Former Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:39:55 GMT

Ranting about a missing feature without mentioning your release and SP level is quite a delicate area to be moving into...

Judging by your SE80 and GUI screenshot you are on 7.31 SP6. Right?

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Former Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:54:48 GMT

Little tip: If you are going to be creating a transaction, then you are probably going to want to be authorizing someone to use it as well...

So.. go to the role in PFCG and add the report(s) to the menu of the role via the "reports" option. SAP will then look for transactions which start the report(s) and offer them (if found). But at the bottom left corner there is a little blue button you can click on before you hit enter to start the search... remove the "generate" flag and then hit "Enter" twice.

That is the one you are looking for. Been there since 4.6B...

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:56:09 GMT

Yes, it's 7.31, not sure about SP... It has SAPKB73112 next to SAP_BASIS, that's all I can say as a humble ABAPer.

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:02:55 GMT

The things is - I'm responsible for the transaction creation as an ABAPer and another person handles the role assignment. From what I recall, it worked the same way at other companies - not everyone is blessed to have employees of such diverse skillset like yourself.

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Former Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:28:06 GMT

At least, if PFCG can pass the parameters and default the type for a report transaction, then there is a good case that SE80 should be able to do the same, or does on higher release levels.

Throw us a few more? 😉

Cheers,

Julius

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Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:30:07 GMT

Alright, here is another one - in SE24 why does double-click only work on the Method column and doesn't work on Description? Sure, there is also a button to open editor, but why can't double-click on description also do the same thing as double-click on the method name, i.e. open the method?

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:35:04 GMT

Good point. I'm also not sure why there is no easy way to signal documentation issues with the note or incorrect links? E.g. Amazon has a link 'report an issue with this page' where anyone can tell them that product description is wrong and such. Does SAP really believe the customers need to go through all the trouble of entering an incident for that?

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Former Member — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:56:37 GMT

Someone once called me a "company man" (wont forget it..) but getting the thing rolled out also has some priority.

Once you know that you must click on the method for on-click functions and description only places the cursor, then you know it. It is like not knowing something, then you don't know it.

Perhaps SAP is keeping the option open for the description field to navigate into the translation environment of all data elements, texts, messages etc used by that method to verify that they are translated for installed languages which are flagged as "relevant". That would be cool if they did it, but they didn't!

ps: We built our own translation integration into the object navigator functions on description fields for that same reason for our own developments and made it available as add-on feature for our customers without any charge. As SAP dont use their own translation tools to translate their own developments (they use a 3rd party API), I never bothered parking the idea anywhere. Idea Place was a grave yard for ideas anyway (any which I followed or created).

pps: Perhaps I was also just speaking to the wrong people. the idea behind Idea Place was that the right people would be active in it. I guess that is where it failed, and the gurus all got pulled off to do HANA development. Have you tried to create a transaction in HANA yet via the command line tool?

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

moshenaveh — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 06:42:40 GMT

Hello Folks,

This sounds like a support related issue. Maybe we could call for feedback.

Regards,

Moshe

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Former Member — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:30:47 GMT

I wish SAP would support customer/partner namespaces all through the system and not only partially. This would inlcude, they don't pop up in SPAU anymore, wouldn't need a repair-key from partners which they are astonishingly hesitant to part with etc. (700/24 - 731/6).

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ErvinSzolke — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:00:10 GMT

Hi Moshe,

thanks a lot calling my attention to it. There is a wishlist called "customer influence", but I need to refresh my knowledge on this before going into details.

I am sure that there is a reason why SAP is not enabling scn community to have a topic space full of wishes (or each topic space with a featured "sticky" discussion called wishlist). To mention only some : there are various Releases , SPs, Patch Levels, there are plenty of products out there, there is the abap world as well as java world, etc, etc. and all these have to be entered into a form otherwise it leads to chaos and long processing times. This is not ideal in a thread. Plus these issues have to be properly dispatched to the corresponding developer team for decision and this is why a ticket is required. It needs to be possible to track it, again scn is not ideal. There are products which are in maintenance mode where no new features only bug fixing is allowed. There are high prio features and there are low prio features, etc. I am sure this list is way longer.

For really-really simple cases though like correcting links I could imagine a featured discussion (that behaves like a sticky thread if the space editor moves that widget to the top) in every topic space.

The SAP moderators could monitor that thread and report to their own development support or to KBA owners for taking into consideration.

I get back to you once I discussed this with the KM Board.

Cheers,

Ervin

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Former Member — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 13:25:50 GMT

It does help avoid accidental forward navigation. Many (including me) have a habit of doing click-drag-lift on visible text while thinking about something else. Double click on text in web page selects the word. Triple click selects the line or paragraph. If double click on text does anything other than selecting the text, it will interrupt my train of thought

I also drum my fingers on keyboard's blank space that is above arrow keys and below insert,delete,home,end,pageup,pagedown keys.

I also select some text to make a mental note that I am reading a particular line (poor man's substitute of line getting highlighted on mouse hover). The table control does not have ALV like zebra highlighting so selecting line or text is important as a reading checkpoint.

Maybe it is to educate people that one can double click on data that is key field of some table, whereas description is just description.

Maybe it is some form of DRY (don't repeat yourself) principle. Double click already works on one column, why do you want on another column that does the exact same thing.

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

kmoore007 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:25:19 GMT

LOL! That one has always bugged me!

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ErvinSzolke — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:07:11 GMT

Hi Jürgen,

I pinged the KBA Process Owner to look into this.

Cheers,

Ervin

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JL23 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:26:50 GMT

Here is example, this KBA has links to 4 different notes and for all I get the error "host name css.wdf.sap.corp not resolvable" : 1915844 - How the system valuates a Goods Receipt for a Purchase Order

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Cuneyt — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:18:16 GMT

Dear all,

just have read thorugh this interesting coversation and am wondering whether you cannot use the official "influence process" at SAP to submit your specific needs and where you actively can participate in a variety of other influencing projects we are currently offering across different SAP products and solutions.

I think it would be a great choice for you, helping you in addressing your need for quick and easy improvements. Here is the hyperlink to the dedicated space: influence.sap.com called "Customer Influence", a collaboration platform we are offering for all SAP customers of mainstream products. It is a chance for everybody who would like to improve his/her daily life and so influence SAP products. You will find all information necessary within the mentioned site. On the same platform, you may also address innovational needs on our products.

The SAP Customer Connection program is dedicated to be the channel for addressing improvement requests for SAP products which are in use already. More details about the program is also available at www.sap.com/cc, our official site with a quick overview, as well as on our SCN Space under

http://scn.sap.com/customer-connection.

As mentioned by other users above as a kind of "wish list", I recommend to take the opportunity and have a look there. It is for sure much more than just a wish list!

Hope you will use this chance provided in future as it totally fits to your needs.

Best regards,

Cueneyt Cam

SAP SE

Communications - SAP Customer Connection Program

Message was edited by: Cueneyt Cam Just forgot to mention our dedicated SCN space with further details about our Customer Connection program: scn.sap.com/customer-connection

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

stephenjohannes — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:45:11 GMT

Jelena,

Aren't you on with the program, that you are not supposed to use SE80 and that Eclipse will fix all your problems by launching the SAP GUI inside of an eclipse window. You also aren't supposed be creating any new transaction codes and should be developing all your new apps in UI5 .

Take care,

Stephen

Re: Stuff SAP could easily fix - rant / wish list

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:59:06 GMT

Stephen, I was totally waiting for someone to mention Eclipse, although didn't expect for it to be you.